{"id":1041,"date":"2010-06-14T00:58:42","date_gmt":"2010-06-13T21:58:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/privacy.cyber-rights.org.tr\/?p=1041"},"modified":"2010-06-14T00:58:45","modified_gmt":"2010-06-13T21:58:45","slug":"cumhuriyet-bu-dolayli-bir-sansurdur","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/privacy.cyber-rights.org.tr\/?p=1041","title":{"rendered":"Cumhuriyet: Bu dolayl\u0131 bir sans\u00fcrd\u00fcr&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cumhuriyet.com.tr\/?hn=148530\">Cumhuriyet Portal<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bu dolayl\u0131 bir sans\u00fcrd\u00fcr&#8230; 14.06.2010<\/p>\n<p>Ge\u00e7en hafta internette bir kaos ya\u015fand\u0131 ve h\u00e2l\u00e2 devam ediyor. Yap\u0131lanlarda hi\u00e7 kabahat yokmu\u015f, YouTube&#8217;un kapanmas\u0131 kaderimizmi\u015f gibi, her \u015fey Google&#8217;a y\u00fcklendi. Ancak sorun Google&#8217;da de\u011fil, sorun T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de i\u00e7inde bulundu\u011fumuz sans\u00fcrc\u00fc zihniyette.<\/p>\n<p>Sinem G\u00fcven<\/p>\n<p>Ge\u00e7en haftadan beri g\u00fcndemimizde Google servislerine uygulanan eri\u015fim engeli var. Google\u2019\u0131n yani internet kullan\u0131c\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na gelen eri\u015fim engellenmesi, pek \u00e7ok \u015feyi aksatt\u0131. \u00d6nce nedenini, sonra nas\u0131l\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klayal\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p>Google sadece bir arama motoru de\u011fil. Hem sitelerin, hem \u015firketlerin hem de kullan\u0131c\u0131lar\u0131n i\u015fine yarayan pek \u00e7ok servisi var. \u00d6rne\u011fin, sitelerin ziyaret\u00e7ilerinin analizini yapmaya yarayan Google Analytics sayesinde siteye kim, hangi ba\u011flant\u0131yla gelmi\u015f, nelere t\u0131klam\u0131\u015f g\u00f6rebiliyor site sahibi.<\/p>\n<p>Google Translate T\u00fcrk\u00e7e dahil pek \u00e7ok dilde \u00e7eviri yapmak i\u00e7in kullan\u0131l\u0131yor. Google Reader, bloglar\u0131 ve haber sitelerini tek bir havuzdan takip etmeye, Google Docs dosyalar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 \u00e7evrimi\u00e7i olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fclemeye yar\u0131yor. Bu ve bunun gibi 27 Google servisi, T\u0130B\u2019in (Telekom\u00fcnikasyon \u0130leti\u015fim Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131) eri\u015fim engelinden etkilendi. Nas\u0131l\u0131na gelirsek, Google\u2019\u0131n servis verdi\u011fi bir IP havuzu var. Bu havuzda YouTube\u2019un da, di\u011fer Google servislerinin de IP\u2019leri var. T\u0130B, halihaz\u0131rda 2 y\u0131ld\u0131r engelli olan YouTube\u2019un servis ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 IP numaralar\u0131n\u0131 aniden g\u00fcncelleyince, t\u00fcm Google servisleri g\u00fcme gitmi\u015f oldu. T\u0130B \u00f6nce yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamada uygulaman\u0131n, \u2018Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi\u2019nin 05\/05\/2008 tarihli ve 2008\/402 No\u2019lu karar\u0131 gere\u011fi eri\u015fimi engelli olan http:\/\/www.youtube.com internet adresine ili\u015fkin IP adreslerinin g\u00fcncellemesinden ibaret\u2019 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Yani, Google\u2019a sans\u00fcr yok, YouTube yasa\u011f\u0131yla ilgili dedi. Sanki YouTube\u2019a girememek T\u00fcrklerin kaderinde varm\u0131\u015f gibi&#8230; Hemen sonras\u0131nda Ula\u015ft\u0131rma Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 Google\u2019\u0131n 30 milyon TL\u2019lik bir vergi borcu oldu\u011funu a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131: \u2018Bunu yaparken ayn\u0131 zamanda dedik ki, gelin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir irtibat b\u00fcronuz olsun, bir \u015fubeniz olsun. (..)Maliye Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 firmaya 30 milyon TL\u2019lik vergi tahakkuku yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.\u2019 Bu da konuyu sapt\u0131rmaktan ba\u015fka bir \u015fey de\u011fildi. Zira 5651 say\u0131l\u0131 yasada yer sa\u011flay\u0131c\u0131 olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcnen \u015firketlerin T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de ofis a\u00e7ma zorunluluklar\u0131 yok. Vergi bor\u00e7lar\u0131 da yok dolay\u0131s\u0131yla. Sonu\u00e7 olarak \u2018sans\u00fcrc\u00fc \u00fclke\u2019 stat\u00fcm\u00fcz g\u00fc\u00e7 kazand\u0131. Bu s\u0131rada, Cyber-rights hareketinin kurucusu ve Bilgi \u00dcniversitesi \u00f6\u011fretim \u00fcyesi Do\u00e7. Dr. Yaman Akdeniz (sa\u011fda) ve insan haklar\u0131 hukuk\u00e7usu, Ankara \u00dcniversitesi Siyasal Bilgiler Fak\u00fcltesi\u2019nden Yrd. Do\u00e7. Dr. Kerem Alt\u0131parmak, T\u0130B\u2019e itiraz dilek\u00e7esi verdi. \u00dclkemizde ya\u015fanan bir vergi sorunu de\u011fil, bir sans\u00fcr sorunu. Neden mi? Nedenini Do\u00e7. Dr. Yaman Akdeniz\u2019e sorduk.<\/p>\n<p>Akdeniz, \u00f6ncelikle T\u0130B\u2019in eri\u015fim engellemesinin hukuki bir dayana\u011f\u0131n\u0131n olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n alt\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7iziyor. Google servislerine eri\u015filmemesi i\u00e7in bir mahkeme karar\u0131 yok. \u2018Burada durup dururken T\u0130B, Google havuzunda bulunan \u00e7e\u015fitli IP adreslerine keyfi olarak eri\u015fim engelliyor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de eri\u015fim engellerinin ba\u011fl\u0131 oldu\u011fu kanun 5651 say\u0131l\u0131 kanun. Bu kanunda T\u0130B\u2019e verilmi\u015f keyfi bir eri\u015fim engelleme yetkisi yok. Bu y\u00fczden de T\u0130B&#8217;in karar\u0131na itiraz ettik\u2019 diyor. T\u0130B\u2019in derdi, Google\u2019\u0131n, kendisine kesilen 30 milyon TL vergi borcunu \u00f6deyip burada bir ofis a\u00e7mas\u0131. Ve tabii bunun getirece\u011fi y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcl\u00fcklere de katlanmas\u0131. Bu da ya idari para cezalar\u0131 ya da otosans\u00fcr demek&#8230; Akdeniz devam ediyor: \u2018T\u0130B, Google T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ofis a\u00e7s\u0131n diyor. Sen Google\u2019a 30 milyon TL vergi borcu \u00f6de demi\u015fsin, burada ofis a\u00e7arsan bizim istemedi\u011fimiz i\u00e7eri\u011fi kald\u0131r\u0131rs\u0131n, \u00fczerine idari para cezas\u0131 al\u0131rs\u0131n, genel m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fcn mahkemelerde s\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcr. Burada Amazon\u2019un, Facebook\u2019un ofisi mi var ki Google\u2019\u0131n olsun?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Akdeniz, Google servislerine eri\u015fimin engellenmesinin Google\u2019\u0131 rahats\u0131z etmek demek oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor: \u2018Bir \u015fekilde Google\u2019\u0131 rahats\u0131z etmek istediler. Ben Google\u2019la haberle\u015ftim, ger\u00e7ekten de rahats\u0131zlar. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc onlar bir s\u00fcr\u00fc \u015firkete servis veriyor. Sonu\u00e7ta \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 altyap\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye has bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Google kar\u015f\u0131lar\u0131nda ger\u00e7ekten demokratik bir hukuk devleti olsa masaya otururdu. Belki Google buna bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulur ama 3-4 ay sonra yeniden ya\u015fayabiliriz bu sorunu. Bu y\u00fczden biz T\u0130B\u2019e itiraz ettik. Ki yer sa\u011flay\u0131c\u0131 diye Google\u2019\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de faaliyet belgesi almaya ve ofis a\u00e7maya zorlanmas\u0131, hi\u00e7bir \u00fclkenin hukukunda yok. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Google\u2019dan talep etti\u011fi vergi borcu da fidye istemek gibi. Tabii, paras\u0131n\u0131 verseler de a\u00e7mayabilirler, k\u00f6t\u00fc biten Amerikan filmleri gibi. Fidyeyi verirsin ama \u00e7ocuk da \u00f6l\u00fcr&#8230;\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Akdeniz, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin AB\u2019nin kap\u0131s\u0131na dayanm\u0131\u015f bir \u00fclke oldu\u011funun alt\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7iziyor: \u2018Ya AB\u2019ye do\u011fru ya da \u00c7in\u2019e do\u011fru gidece\u011fiz ama \u015fu an nereye gitti\u011fimiz ortada. AB\u2019de b\u00f6yle bir sans\u00fcr mekanizmas\u0131 olan \u00fclke yok\u2019 diyor. Bu arada Akdeniz ve Kerem Alt\u0131parmak, YouTube karar\u0131na da itiraz etti. \u015eu an yasa\u011f\u0131n dayand\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 10 videodan alt\u0131s\u0131 kald\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Kalan d\u00f6rd\u00fcne ise T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den girilemiyor. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc YouTube, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den eri\u015fime izin vermiyor. \u2018Zaten T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den eri\u015fmek bu kadar zorken di\u011fer servisler de kullan\u0131lamaz k\u0131l\u0131n\u0131yor. Bu dolayl\u0131 bir sans\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u2019 diyor Akdeniz.<\/p>\n<p>13 Haziran 2010<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cumhuriyet Portal Bu dolayl\u0131 bir sans\u00fcrd\u00fcr&#8230; 14.06.2010 Ge\u00e7en hafta internette bir kaos ya\u015fand\u0131 ve h\u00e2l\u00e2 devam ediyor. Yap\u0131lanlarda hi\u00e7 kabahat yokmu\u015f, YouTube&#8217;un kapanmas\u0131 kaderimizmi\u015f gibi, her \u015fey Google&#8217;a y\u00fcklendi. 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